Are you OK with Congress just passing legislation for a mandatory civilian national security force?
http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/government/fraud/us_government/news.php?q=1237576392
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-1388
http://www.americorps.gov/about/newsroom/releases_detail.asp?tbl_pr_id=1265
Under section 6104 of the bill, entitled “Duties,” in subsection B6, the legislation states that a commission will be set up to investigate, “Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.”
Section 120 of the bill also discusses the “Youth Engagement Zone Program” and states that “service learning” will be “a mandatory part of the curriculum in all of the secondary schools served by the local educational agency.”
Obama told a rally in Colorado Springs, “We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that is just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded.”
Despite denials that Obama plans to institute a mandatory program of national service, his original change.gov website stated that Americans would be “required” to complete “50 hours of community service in middle school and high school and 100 hours of community service in college every year”. The text was only later changed to state that Americans would be “encouraged” to undertake such programs.
If you believe it will be voluntary you need to see what the government said about income tax and social security when it passed those pieces of legislation.
9 Responses to “Are you OK with Congress just passing legislation for a mandatory civilian national security force?”


Im not ok with anything Congress is doing!
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Its not mandatory for all students… just participants in particular programs. Your source (govtrack) doesn’t list a 6104 section. The bill ends with 5102.
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…our version of the Germany’s Brown Shirts?
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Since you Republicans seem unable to comprehend the word, I thought I would give you guys a hand.
vol⋅un⋅teer /ˌvɒlənˈtɪər/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [vol-uhn-teer] Show IPA
–noun 1. a person who voluntarily offers himself or herself for a service or undertaking.
2. a person who performs a service willingly and without pay.
3. Military. a person who enters the service voluntarily rather than through conscription or draft, esp. for special or temporary service rather than as a member of the regular or permanent army.
A person who performs or offers to perform a service voluntarily: an information booth staffed by volunteers; hospital volunteers
1. One who enters into, or offers for, any service of his own free will.
2. (Mil.) One who enters into service voluntarily, but who, when in service, is subject to discipline and regulations like other soldiers; — opposed to conscript; specifically, a voluntary member of the organized militia of a country as distinguished from the standing army.
To offer or bestow voluntarily, or without solicitation or compulsion; as, to volunteer one’s services.
To enter into, or offer for, any service of one’s own free will, without solicitation or compulsion; as, he volunteered in that undertaking.
1. (military) a person who freely enlists for service [ant: conscript]
2. a person who performs voluntary work
3. a native or resident of Tennessee
OK, that last one is a bit weird.
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No matter who you voted for this bill is concerning. The SF Examiner had a thought provoking article.
Examiner Editorial: Expanded Americorps has stench of authoritarianism
Examiner Editorial 3/26/09
With almost no public attention, both chambers of Congress in the past week advanced an alarming expansion of the Americorps national service plan, with the number of federally funded community-service jobs increasing from 75,000 to 250,000 at a cost of $5.7 billion. Lurking behind the feel-good rhetoric spouted by the measure’s advocates is a bill that upon closer inspection reveals multiple provisions that together create a strong odor of creepy authoritarianism.
The House passed the measure overwhelmingly, while only 14 senators had the sense and courage to vote against it on a key procedural motion. Every legislator who either voted for this bill or didn’t vote at all has some serious explaining to do.
Last summer, then-candidate Barack Obama threw civil liberties to the wind when he proposed “a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded” as the regular military. The expanded Americorps is not quite so disturbing, but a number of provisions in the bill raise serious concerns.
To begin with, the legislation threatens the voluntary nature of Americorps by calling for consideration of “a workable, fair and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people.” It anticipates the possibility of requiring “all individuals in the United States” to perform such service, including elementary school students.
The bill also summons up unsettling memories of World War II-era paramilitary groups by saying the new program should “combine the best practices of civilian service with the best aspects of military service,” while establishing “campuses” that serve as “operational headquarters,” complete with “superintendents” and “uniforms” for all participants. It allows for the elimination of all age restrictions in order to involve Americans at all stages of life. And, it calls for the creation of “a permanent cadre” in a “National Community Civilian Corps.”
But that’s not all. The bill also calls for “youth engagement zones” in which “service learning” is “a mandatory part of the curriculum in all of the secondary schools served by the local educational agency.”
This updated form of voluntary community service is also to be “integrated into the science, technology, engineering and mathematics curricula” at all levels of schooling. Sounds like a government curriculum for government-approved “service learning,” which is nothing less than indoctrination.
Now, ask yourself if Congress members who voted for this monstrosity had a clue what they were voting for. If not, they’re guilty of dereliction of duty. If they did, the implications are truly frightening.
http://www.sfexaminer.com/opinion/Expanded-Americorps-has-stench-of-authoritarianism-41869152.html
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Were you OK with Bush’s “Homeland Security”
Or did you think that was some sort of conspiracy?
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What the problem is? I can see where some might think it’s throwback to the Hitler youth thing. Kind of preposterous really. But why wouldn’t it work? Much of the divisiveness in this country is due to ignorance of our neighbors. Giving people a better understanding of how it really is can only unite don’t you think? Instead of assuming that other citizens are non worthy of being Americans just because that’s what one sees on tv and movies. Well it’s kind of asinine really. Some folks don’t even leave their own state yet have an opine about people from a different time zone. All because that’s what they are told by the media.
I say let it ride. Besides what could be more patriotic than working to better ones country?
Have a nice day.
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Will also have to pass thru the Senate and then the courts. Don’t hold your breath on it.
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Liberals like socialism but they don’t see that socialism is ruining Europe and we only have to look at what they are doing because that where we are heading. The government will use the children as informers! Just like Hitler did!
Hey kids! Be a “Climate Cop” – rat on your family, friends, and classmates!
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/07/27/hey-kids-be-a-climate-cop-rat-on-your-family-friends-and-classmates/
Notice the convenient Teachers zone!
http://climatecops.com/
The College brigades will help enforce all of the new eco-crimes!
““Criminal justice”, “environmental stewardship” and “public safety” are the subjects of this mandatory program.”
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/9658
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